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One of the Trees Being Removed to Build City Center

Click on the picture above to enlarge it and take a look at this beautiful, large southern red oak.  This tree is 60 inches in diameter.  Sadly, it will be removed in order for the city of Alpharetta to build a parking deck for the new City Center.

If citizens don't speak up in opposition to this, not only will this kind of thing happen in downtown Alpharetta, but all over Alpharetta. 

Visit the City Council meeting of August 6th and voice your opinion.  Email or call your City Councilmen and voice your opinion.  

Jean E. Williams

7:51 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012

This is a crime and I hope you will like the NEW look of Alpharetta when you get through destroying it. Jean E. Williams
I'm sorry I will be unable to attend your city council meeting on the 6th.

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Julie Hogg

9:11 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012

thank you for caring enough to comment, Jean

Truthseeker

8:12 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012

I encourage lots and lots of pictures to be taken of the area and the trees now. They will speak volumes when the Mayor (43%) and the pro tree killing, city plan changing council members are up for reelection. Remember Cheryl Oakes (one term and thrown out) who also thought she was smarter than the citizens of Alpharetta. Belle Isle is known to have higher office aspirations. Hope they all understand that their actions are being carefully watched. Hope they reconsider and make the right decision.

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Julie Hogg

9:12 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012

lots of pictures taken a good idea and will be done

Margit Mchaney

9:50 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012

Please don't cut down that tree! I'm sorry that I will be out of town and will miss the meeting.

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Julie Hogg

10:06 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012

Margit, it will be a sad day if that tree has to be cut.

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Tracey Kennedy

6:28 am on Monday, August 6, 2012

This is crazy! If any of us has a tree that needs to be removed we need permission.
The city even has an arborist that will come out to advise. Usually tree removal is based on the tree being diseased or dying. There is nothing wrong with that tree except that our "leaders" want a car to be parked over it??? We can't wait to react to this after it is taken down. An entire forest was clear-cut on Milton Pkwy years ago to make way for something that never came through - does anyone remember how nice it used to look? It's not so pretty now. Do not cut down this tree!
One of the things my visitors comment on is how nice our town is with all of the trees!

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Academy Park Anon

1:37 am on Thursday, August 9, 2012

If you are saying that the trees along Old Milton Parkway were taken down illegally, I challenge you to prove that. There are steps in the tree removal process that allow for the removal of trees, but at a financial and or replacement tree cost.

Paula Milliard

8:24 am on Monday, August 6, 2012

Tonight 7:30 at City Hall....hope we can make a difference, now is the the time to make the building adjustments and save the trees.
I've learned that whatever variation of the design plans, the most important point is a gathering place for people. We need to be able to walk there, meet and mingle with our neighbors.
We need to sit under trees, have coffee, shop at the market. I hope we have that feeling in our City Center design plan . I've realized I love the west side of our village. The brick fronts and sidewalks, loved going into Southern Comforts then the art store. Love the little corner deli. Love the shops on the west side of N Main.
I think that is the heart of our village.
From what I've read about successful, vibrant areas it is always the cozy little main street of eclectic shops and cafes that gives a village it's identity and keeps it going.
I truly hope the council hears this tonight.

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Vic Hawa

8:33 am on Monday, August 6, 2012

It is truly a shame that so many trees were surreptitiously hacked down after the city took great care to protect their critical root zones while demolishing the homes nestled below these glorious trees. The additional removal of specimen trees on this site is absolutely unforgivable.

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Academy Park Anon

1:35 am on Thursday, August 9, 2012

You obviously didn't see the huge cavities in those trees when they took them down. I walk by there almost daily and I was able to observe that part of the process.

What looks like a healthy tree, can be a tree that is on it's last leg, waiting to topple onto power lines, or worse yet me as I'm walking on the sidewalk.

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Truthseeker

9:22 am on Thursday, August 9, 2012

AP Anon, let me direct you to the process in Alpharetta of removing any tree.
http://alpharetta.ga.us/index.php?p=339
This procedure was not followed by the city itself. The city council and mayor admit that they did not engage the city arborist prior to any decisions being made. I'm glad you are a tree health expert. However unless there was PRIOR to cutting down of one tree, a report by the city arborist I'm not believing that they we're ALL diseased and a danger. How convenient they just happen to be in the route of the new proposed construction. Oh what luck for the mayor and council.

D. Daugherty

9:16 am on Monday, August 6, 2012

I would be fined by the City of Alpharetta if I removed a healthy tree that size from my own property!

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Paula Milliard

11:38 am on Monday, August 6, 2012

Please everyone try and attend city hall council meeting tonight at 7:30.
Hopefully we will have some media coverage.

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Paula Milliard

12:42 pm on Monday, August 6, 2012

Everyone meeting at Brook Street Park at 6:30. Yes, I'll be there!

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Truthseeker

8:57 am on Tuesday, August 7, 2012

Any information from the meeting?

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No Name

9:06 am on Tuesday, August 7, 2012

There is this: http://rootsinalpharetta.com/2012/08/downtown-tree-anxiety/

Also you should be able to watch it from City's website.

Michael Cross

9:14 am on Tuesday, August 7, 2012

The reports presented during the Council meeting last night showed the City, so far, has managed to prepare a plan that may save 12 more trees than the concept drawing prepared last year in advance of the bond referendum that was approved by more than 71% of voters. Various Council members also reported they were looking for ways to preserve as much green space as possible.

Another item discussed in response to questions regarding sustainability was this - the intent is for all buildings on the site to be built consistent with the standards that would lead to LEED certified status, though we've not yet discussed or decided whether to spend taxpayer money on the LEED certification process. The buildings currently on site certainly are not constructed in such a way to qualify.

Finally, the consultants reported on the difference in the green space between the concept drawing and the currently approved plan. The town green has been reduced from 1.0 acres to 0.94 acres, and the park has been reduced from 5.0 acres to 4.82 acres.

All are welcome to contact me if you have any questions - mcross@Alpharetta.ga.us.

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Lee at rootsinalpharetta.com

9:54 am on Tuesday, August 7, 2012

Mr Cross, your assessment of last night's meeting failed to mention the flood of citizens who expressed real concern for the trees and scale of the overall plan. Many of those who spoke were members of the city's own natural resources commission and homeowners of adjacent neighborhoods.

Don't hide behind what your paid consultants are presenting. Listen to what people are saying. The scale and scope of this plan need to be reduced.

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No Name

9:57 am on Tuesday, August 7, 2012

Michael, Your response shows that you didn't hear a thing last night. It shows that last night's meeting was a charade to justify and rationalize what you guys are dead set on doing.

That landscape architect... Where has she been hiding? Why did we see her for the first time last night? Why was she not involved in any of the planning meetings between Belle Isle, Owens, Mitchell and the rest of the team? Why weren't any of her drawings included in the original packet of information? Why weren't all these handy answers available when Councilman Gilvin first asked about the trees on June 18?

The answer is because none of this existed and was manufactured for a good show last night, apparently.

Also, I didn't realize that any tree analysis had been done with the pre-bond drawings. I thought those drawings were just a "concept." You can't have it both ways, Mr. Cross. Was it just a concept or a detailed plan?

As an astute petitioner mentioned, since the timeline and market for "Future Development" is apparently unknown, why are you all so dead set on this plan?

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No Name

10:09 am on Tuesday, August 7, 2012

@Lee - 2 hours of public comment and a roomful of other concerned citizens who didn't speak but only applauded at shared concerns voiced by others.

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Michael Cross

11:17 am on Tuesday, August 7, 2012

@Lee, There were several citizens concerned about the removal of trees. Our Council is concerned as well. It's our intent to preserve as many specimen trees as possible. Thus far, the plan shows we've been able to preserve more trees than contemplated by the concept drawing, and we've not finished our work.

Further, I've no interest in hiding behind the presentation of anyone, nor have I ever been inclined to allow someone else to speak for me. At each stage, I intend to obtain as much information as I can before making a decision. Toward that end, we'll be discussing the scalability of the project and getting a sense for how the area would look or could be adjusted if it appears less development on the outparcels should occur.

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Michael Cross

11:25 am on Tuesday, August 7, 2012

@No Name, I've no interest in and little time for charades. I take this process seriously. The reason the landscape architect was present last night is because our citizens wanted to discuss the approach to the specimen trees. She has been very involved in the process and she has attended Council meetings in the past. In fact, she was introduced as part of the consulting team when the contract was awarded.

I'm not sure what "original packet of information" you're referencing, but I'm sure I can find an electronic copy. Send me an email, and I'll forward it to you.

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Michael Cross

11:27 am on Tuesday, August 7, 2012

@No Name. Finally, I wasn't on Council when the bond referendum was approved, so I can't speak to all that was involved in that process. That said, I definitely supported the referendum.

My approach, as I stated last night, is as follows -

My starting point is the concept drawing that was circulated among citizens by the bond committee. Based upon input from citizens and professionals, I consider whether adjustments should be made. All the architects who were interviewed commented on how the concept drawing had to be adjusted to include small lanes throughout the project. Without that, the unique shops and atmosphere of home town downtown simply couldn't exist. When faced with unanimity of professional opinion, this portion of the decision was easy.

To allow the streets to align and work properly, the plan required City Hall to be moved 30 feet. I don't regard 30 feet on a 26 acre parcel to be terribly significant, though I was concerned about the encroachment into the park space.

But we've found a way to add green space elsewhere, and the current plan saves more trees than the concept drawing.

And there won't be a time when I'm not listening to the comments of citizens, trying to take in more information, and making the best decisions I can. Please feel free to contact me if you would ever like to discuss this or any other matter further.

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Lee at rootsinalpharetta.com

1:17 pm on Tuesday, August 7, 2012

@Michael Cross - Several concerned citizens? Ms Hogg's online petition is closing in on 500 responses. Councilman Kennedy once told me that he knew of only five citizens who had concern about the downtown plan. I think it would behoove you, Mrs. Bristol and Mr. Kennedy not to underestimate the number of those opposed to this downtown plan.

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Bob Pepalis

10:50 am on Tuesday, August 7, 2012

I will have my report on the meeting today, including comments from a portion of the residents who spoke on various viewpoints. If I miss you, there's always the comment stream to add your views.

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Nancy Bristol

11:02 am on Tuesday, August 7, 2012

While the room may have been filled with people who claimed to have attended several of the public meetings prior to the bond and again when the current site plan was presented, it became very apparent to this observer from comments being made that they must not have listened to what was being said. For example, moving Haynes Bridge Road has been part of the previous plans as well as the current site plan. Plans for community gathering areas in the park were presented (along with a band shell) during the public hearings. The parking garage was on plans at the conceptual stage...it is not something new.

One person spoke last night that if trees were cut down it would diminish his property values. Yet, when his subdivision was being constructed, the developer did a clear cut. The subdivision is beautiful today and he should ask himself if the neighbors around that subdivision felt like their property values would be diminished by the clearcutting done to give him and his neighbors a beautiful residential area.

The group at last night's meeting does not represent how all people in Alpharetta feel about the process were are going through. Many of us trust the people we elected to give us a viable revitalized downtown which will be successful.

I for one am not interested in spending $29 million on a development doomed for failure to cut down one particular tree which one man claimed had to be saved at all costs.

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No Name

6:58 pm on Tuesday, August 7, 2012

I'm very shocked at your response given your record on the Planning Commission for making others save trees. Why is this different? What is your stake in this, Nancy?

Julie Hogg

3:30 pm on Tuesday, August 7, 2012

I cannot take credit for starting the online petition. That was started by another resident of Alpharetta and then signed by me and many other residents of Alpharetta. I'm afraid, Ms.Bristol, you have vastly under-estimated the "group" with whom you are dealing.

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No Name

6:53 pm on Tuesday, August 7, 2012

@Michael Cross
Re: "the original packet of information"

None of this information from the landscape architect was shared with the public before last night -- not a part of the original packet of info. I assume that all of Council had not seen it either since they all got up from their chairs to see the presentation. I have to think that if that information had been known on 6/18, the questions raised about the trees would have been addressed then.... but they weren't.

It seems to me that the landscape architect drawings were a *reaction* to public outrage, not a planned part of the process. This is why people are upset.... the trees are an afterthought.

The man who said that you can manipulate statistics and renderings to show anything you want was absolutely correct. Perhaps you've convinced yourselves but you've not convinced me. The City Hall still sits in Brooke Street Park. That is not what I voted for. Please do the right thing.

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Academy Park Anon

1:32 am on Thursday, August 9, 2012

Academy Park Anon. As an original resident of Academy Park, I know for a fact that the developer cut down many trees, and for sure specimen trees, to build what we now have as a beautiful and vibrant subdivision. It is so hypocritical and mean spirited for my fellow Academy Park residents to become overnight tree huggers and anti-development crazies. Trees have a life expectancy just like we do, and what needs to be done in a sane, logical manner for development to occur should never be stopped in the name of "protection".

Sincerely,

Dancliff Trace Resident
(Anonymous due to guaranteed retaliation from the crazies)

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Julie Hogg

4:55 pm on Thursday, August 9, 2012

Anon- There's no one crazy here except maybe you for thinking that someone would retaliate against you for having an opinion. But, just as you are entitled to your opinion, your fellow residents are entitled to theirs. By your logic, you will be retaliating against them (and already have via your comment).

Marcy

9:49 am on Thursday, August 9, 2012

Does the song stating "Pave Paradise put up a parking lot" come to mind?

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Julie Hogg

8:19 pm on Thursday, August 9, 2012

"don't it always seem to go, that you don't know what you got till it's gone?"

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